The White Out Podcast – season 5, episode 2

INTRO

Dom: Hello, listeners and Welcome to The Whiteout Podcast, brought to you in partnership with OUR HEADLINE SPONSOR THIS WEEK SKI INDEPENDENCE 

I’m Dom from InTheSnow magazine and of course I am here with my co-host, Rob Stewart from Ski Press. ROB how are you?

ROB: yes im all good…what a week it has been, well last week anyway 

DOM yes indeed rob its been a crazy couple of weeks, but before we get into whats been going on

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Rob - good work dom i thought you were gonna run out of breath there, we love ski independence been working with these guys for years now…so yes thanks to them for sponsoring this great episode of finalist best audio broadcast program of the year FINALIST!!!  So yes last week we had the Travel 

Media Awards on monday night…

DOM: ah yes close but no ski pole

ROB: no ski pole? 

DOM: like a cigar but better

ROB: right, never smoked one but i get what you’re saying

DOM: a ski pole?

ROB: no, a cigar, smoked plenty of ski poles - actually they have smoked me more like

DOM: anyway, it was a glittering event at the very smart Pan pacific hotel’s ballroom in London attended by the great and the good of the whole travel industry and our name was up in lights AT LAST THE STARDOM WE WANTED ROB!!

ROB: Indeed and sorry i do need to mention this, but what did the legendary Simon Calder say to me Dom?

DOM: oh not that annoying ski bloke again, he gets everywhere

ROB: ha ha yes, it was probably what he was thinking. 

DOM: no he was very nice to you Rob, even told the army of PR fans surrounding him that you wrote the best press releases in the travel industry and told them why.

ROB: which was great, he just needs to listen to the white out now and next time tell everyone that we write the best podcast in the travel industry too…

DOM: well, as we know, we were up for the best travel podcast in the Travel Media Awards Rob, that’s not just in the ski category that is the whole travel industry and these awards, like you say, are attended by the likes of Simon Calder and other well known faces from the travel world.

ROB: yep, i even saw Marco Polo there, he looked a bit over dressed though 

DOM: how much champagne did you have?

ROB: umm good point, okay maybe i got confused with another Italian travel writer, they do all look the same - reminds me, I’m going to an Italian national tourist office party at Madame Tussauds next week, I’ll grab a selfie with Marco…

DOM: anyway, the week progressed and included our white out podcast Q&A with Val d’Isere at their very smart covent garden event venue

ROB: yes that was fun and lovely to be asked to do that - we must do more of that Dom, let’s take the white out live, what a thought.

DOM: we’ll get to that but then enough of bigging ourselves up, it was down to business at LISTEX, the trade event that has evolved so much over the past 15 years and was held at the Hilton Kensington 

ROB: yes two days of networking, meetings, forum sessions and of course the now legendary LISTEX party - around 250 people attended, the biggest ever. You hosted one of the panel sessions and i was on one of the panel sessions…all good

DOM: then the new London Snow show and we’ll have more about that in our news section but what did you think Rob

ROB: yes it was great, i mean definitely the best one in a few years and brilliantly organised by the new team. I always say the last few snow shows since covid were great and a big up to Raccoon events for that, but they handed the baton over last year and the mountain trade network that also organises LISTEX, took it over.

DOM: yes Rob we handed InTHeSnow Magazine to thousands and thousands of people and you know not only that, you could just see they were all really keen skiers, plus Olympia is a decent exhibition space

ROB: yes i think it’s a great springboard - i could see some of the brands that sell kit really coming back too. We had a chat with Mark Brigham of Ellis Brigham and he actually had a smile on his face.

DOM: yeah that was great to see and having the likes of Dave Ryding there, of course Laurie Taylor and Billy Major too 

ROB: not to mention Molly Butler and the Carrick Smith Boys being interviewed by Chemmy - brilliant stuff.

DOM: any downsides do you think Rob?

ROB: well you know what, my role at the show was to engage with journalists and media, let them know all about it and also bring them into the event. There was around 70 journalists in total that ended up coming along, more than in at least 5 years - they all bar none told me it was the best show in years and if journalists say that it must be true! I mean obviously there’s things that will be looked at and improved for next year, i think there’s a lot of opportunity at that event now. 

DOM: okay but i am going to push on this, just give me your best thing and worst thing about the show…

ROB: ummm okay, best thing - seeing so many ski companies put so much effort into the stands and catching up with lots of friends in the industry. Worst thing, not having more time. I could have spent 4 days walking around which is a really great sign.

DOM: ummm, I’m not going to get you to say anything controversial am i?

ROB: well i just genuinely had a great time. Look, there’s things you could say - more brands would be great, maybe a ski slope, maybe it’s open a bit longer with some apres stuff later on, but considering this was essentially a new event back at Olympia for the first time in 15 years it hit the spot for me.

DOM: yep totally agree Rob, well done to the organisers - all those famous faces at the show but it’s those in the background that make it happen.

ROB: yes, you know what they say Dom…

DOM: what’s that?

ROB: Amateurs seek the sun and then get eaten, whilst the power remains in the shadows 

DOM: Shaekspeare?

ROB: well it’s from the movie Oppenheimer actually but i like it

DOM: well on that note Rob, as the clocks go back and the shadows grow longer, the power of the mountains starts to draw us closer

ROB: i like that Dom, if Shaeakspear was a skier, just imagine the lines we could have….

DOM: (in actors voice): For he who chases the glare of day may stumble, whilst those who tread the hidden slopes inherit strength unseen.

ROB: I like it, the taming of the ski 

DOM: we’re onto something here rob

ROB: yes, but now HERE AT THE WHITEOUT it’s our new round-up - we bring you the latest updates from around the skiing world, from exciting resort developments, events, and everything making headlines in the ski world. So let's get stuck in!

NEWS

The London snow show 

Yes the london snow show launched at Olympia for the first time in 15 years with numbers looking good. Over the two days of the event, over xxx people attended, plugging into more than xxx brands and over xxx of talks hosted by experts in the industry. Chemmy Alcott officially opened the show and the queues stretching down towards Ken High Street came flooding in. We’ll be announcing details of next years show as soon as we can. 

Freddy Carrick Smith – Sölden and Luca in Levi + Laurie Taylor ski club sponsorship 

Well we mentioned this in the last podcast but Freddy Carrick Smith will compete in the GS race in Solden this weekend - the first time a British skier of his age has entered a world cup GS in over 40 years. His brother Luca will also compete in the slalom opener of the season in Levi and then hopefully qualify for Gurgle but the British team places in slalom are getting tight - just imagine four British ski racers in a world cup slalom race. Not sure that has ever happened before. Laurie Taylor, who has recently secured some sponsorship from the ski club of Great britain, will be competing in the world cup slalom again this season - it’s Dave Ryding’s last season and his last race in what’s considered home turf in Gurgle during mid November and guess what - we’ll be there to cover that race live from the slopes of Gurgl. 

In-Piste ski centre 

Im going to see it this week

New Indoor Ski Training Centre Opening at Luton Hoo Estate

A state-of-the-art indoor snowsport training facility called InPiste is set to open this autumn at the Luton Hoo Estate, on the Bedfordshire–Hertfordshire border. The centre will feature Infinity Piste rolling slopes and SkyTech Sport precision carving simulators – some of the most advanced training systems in the UK.

Designed for everyone from first-time skiers to elite athletes, InPiste offers personalised coaching, real-time feedback, and data-driven performance analysis. It aims to support year-round skill development, ski-specific fitness, and injury rehab, as well as create a pathway for young British talent to progress into competitive snowsport.

Set in the grounds of the historic Luton Hoo Estate, InPiste is expected to become a new hub for year-round snowsport training in the UK.

Rob: I know one of the managers very well xxxx

DOM: Peak Performance & Max Palm Bring Urban Ski Jam to London

On November 8, central London is getting a snow makeover. Swedish ski brand Peak Performance and rising freeride star Max Palm are transforming White Grounds Skate Park, near London Bridge, into a winter playground with 30 tons of imported snow. Rails, urban features, and a city-built snow setup promise one of the most unexpected ski events of the year.

This one-day takeover celebrates the launch of Max Palm’s first capsule collection with Peak Performance, but it’s more than a fashion drop — it’s a full urban ski jam. From pro-level rail sessions to grassroots coaching, everyone gets the chance to feel the city streets in ski mode.

1PM: Doors open – free rail tuition with the Peak Performance pro team

2:30PM: The street skiing showdown begins

5PM: Après at Hop Kingdom with an indoor jib setup and music from BOOM Club

Still have your wristband on November 9? Head to the Peak Performance Covent Garden store to claim an exclusive gift.

Book now through eventbrite (link provided) — it’s free, and it’s not something you want to miss.

SNOW AND WEATHER

ROB: Glacier resorts looking good – Sölden green light

Winter is coming and i’m getting snow alerts flooding into my inbox, pictures of snowy mountains - Val Thorens is looking seriously white already. Solden has a green light for the races and it looks like they will get a dusting of fresh snow up there over the weekend. 

David Robertson from Action Outdoors who lives in Chamonix told me this week that winter had arrived there. 

If i look at longer term forecasts for high altitude resorts like Val Thorens and Tignes into the beginning of November then temps are dropping and there’s regular snowfall predicted. 

It’s looking very positive for this time of the year and signs are good. 

And now it’s time for our regular gear section brought to you by our equipment sponsor Ellis Brigham 

GEAR

DOM: Alright, listeners, one jacket that’s been causing a real stir this season is the Dope SPARTAN. Riders are absolutely loving it, and it’s no surprise – this year’s collection was improved with feedback from pro riders and everyday customers who tried last year’s model.

You’ve got the men’s Spartan Sport in vivid purple, red, and black, and the women’s Spartan W in soft pink. Both are part of Dope’s Freedom Collection, and they’ve nailed that boxy retro look with an adjustable drawstring hem for the perfect fit.

ROB: Now, let’s talk tech. This jacket is seriously ready for anything:

• 15,000mm waterproofing with DRY Tech – so you stay dry even in the wettest conditions.
• 15,000g breathability – no sweating out there.
• 60/40 gsm Fellex® insulation keeps you toasty without bulk.
• Fully taped seams, 2-way stretch shell, and lightweight bluesign® approved fabric – basically freedom of movement with safety and quality.

DOM: It’s got all the features you need:

• Helmet-compatible hood with a drawstring, underarm vents, media pocket, lift pass pocket on the sleeve, wrist gaiters, waterproof zipper with a wide inner placket, microfleece chinguard – and yep, a drawstring hem so you can tweak the fit just how you like it.

And if you care about sustainability – and you should – Dope’s on it:

• Bluesign® approved fabrics
• Recycled polyester from plastic bottles
• PFAS-free waterproofing, meaning no nasty “forever chemicals”

RRP? £174 GBP. A jacket that’s stylish, functional, and eco-friendly – not a bad combo. If you’re looking for something that rides and looks great on the mountain this season, the Spartan is one to check out.

ROB: Next up — the Reusch Isidro GTX.

If you’re after a glove that can handle serious mountain weather, this one’s a winner. It’s a technical, long-cuffed glove built with a high-quality GORE-TEX membrane, so it’s completely windproof and waterproof — exactly what you want when conditions get wild.

Inside, you’ve got R-LOFT™ insulation to keep your hands warm, a SoftPlush lining for that cosy feel, and Softshell Premium fabric on the outside for flexibility. The palm’s made from durable goatskin, which gives you great grip and long-lasting toughness.

Basically, the Isidro GTX combines warmth, comfort, and serious weather protection — ideal for long days on the mountain when you need your hands to just work. 

DESTINATION GUIDE

DOM: this week we’re going to run down the resorts we think are absolute must go to’s for this winter.

ROB: Looks like a great list Dom, spanning countries including France, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Japan and Norway

Why don’t you take it away Dom…

DOM: first up it’s Saas Fee, Switzerland

This is a high, snow-sure, and car-free ski resort with a spectacular ice arena surrounding a very quaint, traditional village. Saas Fee delivers reliable snow conditions with glacier terrain perfect for early or late-season skiing. About 100 km of pistes are served by roughly 23 lifts, offering a mix of gentle slopes, high-altitude cruisers, and glacier runs. I went there last season and i must say, i was blown away by the scenery, the skiing and the village that’s like going back in time. Proper Switzerland if you know what i mean. The combination of altitude, accessible lifts, and mountain variety means it makes our top 10 choice for a must visit this season. 

ROB: right, next up, we’re heading over to… Les Menuires, France

Right in the heart of Les 3 Vallées, Les Menuires offers great access to the world’s largest skiing area. Around 160 km of slopes and 30–35 lifts connect easily to Meribel and Courchevel - of course the whole area has around 600 kilometres of piste. Compact village lifts let skiers hop straight onto a huge variety of pistes, including blues, reds, and long cruisers. Perfect for mixed groups and families, the resort balances variety with convenience. Efficient lifts and the ability to hop across valleys make Les Menuires a smart pick for anyone chasing mileage without the fuss.

DOM: Moving south to Italy… Ponte di legno–Tonale, also known as the Adamello ski area

Spanning the Tonale glacier and Ponte di legno valley, this Italian resort offers about 100 km of piste with 28–30 lifts across 4 different ski areas including Passo Tonale, probably the most well-known. Long cruisers, steeper runs, and freeride pockets give variety, while on-mountain dining and an efficient lift layout help make the most of the day - of course that Italian food helps too. High-altitude snow - the area goes up to over 3,000 metres, ensures early and late-season reliability. The combination of terrain, lifts, and Italian mountain hospitality makes it an incredible destination and it’s still relatively unknown to the British skier. 

ROB: Right back to Switzerland Dom and the resort of Grindelwald, 

Located right beneath the famous north face of the Eiger, Grindelwald combines dramatic scenery with varied ski terrain for all levels. The Grindelwald ski area, connected with Wengen, offers roughly 100–110 km of pistes with modern lift infrastructure including the new Eiger Express cable car and a network of railways that can still be used by skiers and snowboarders. Long red runs with incredible views, steeper, more technical routes, and some more gentle blues make it ideal for all levels, then famous pistes like the Lauberhorn - used for the world cup, add stacks of alpine heritage. The village itself is packed full of great hotels and the views are always spectacular. Add in a trip to the Jungfraujoch Top of Europe with its ice caves (etc) and you’ve really got the full package for a great ski holiday.

DOM: Across the Atlantic to… Jackson Hole, USA

Steep, deep, with some of the most serious terrain in the Rockies — Jackson Hole, wyoming, is a big draw for advanced skiers chasing technical and freeride terrain. 13 lifts opens up a big 2,500 acres of terrain, with an aerial tram, two gondolas and several high speed quad chairs, delivering drops over 1,200 m. Iconic lines like Corbet’s Couloir and frequent powder days is what makes it famous, while the town of Jackson adds western charm and lots of après options. For experienced skiers, it’s big-mountain adventure at its purest and a true bucket list destination for skiers. Beginners and intermediates shouldn't worry though, whilst the resort is famous for its wild west skiing, there’s plenty of slopes to keep everyone happy. In fact 40% of the terrain is rated blue. 

ROB: right back over in Austria…we have Altenmarkt–Zauchensee

This area oozes skiing history with so many ski racers coming out of Altenmarkt, and it’s where the largest ski manufacturer in the world is based, Atomic. You can stay down in Altenmarkt which is a lovely village, very traditional or up in Zauchensee - more ski in ski out. It’s known for efficient lifts, high-altitude runs, and well-groomed slopes, this area offers over 80 km’s of pistes combines via roughly 25 lifts. There’s loads of reds, blacks, and off-piste options too, great for all levels basically - but there really is some great freeride skiing here, while snowmaking ensures coverage on the lower slopes. It’s classic Austria - so expect lovely on mountain restaurants and fun apres ski - it’s not a massive party place but they do like to have fun. 

DOM: Heading back to Italy… Drei Zinnen

Set in the heart of the Dolomites, Drei Zinnen is a resort that combines breathtaking scenery with a versatile skiing experience. The area offers roughly 115 km of groomed slopes across 30–35 lifts, spanning five connected mountains. There’s something here for everyone: long, flowing intermediate runs for steady carving, technical reds for skiers wanting a challenge, and well-prepared blacks for those who like to push their limits. Efficient lift systems mean you can cover a lot of ground in a single day without feeling rushed, while the striking mountain landscapes make every descent feel cinematic. Beyond the pistes, the Dolomiti Superski network offers easy connections to neighbouring valleys, so you can explore wider terrain if you’re up for it. On-mountain restaurants and cosy huts provide perfect rest stops with incredible views, and the local culture adds charm without getting in the way of skiing. For anyone seeking a combination of scenic alpine grandeur, variety, and efficient ski infrastructure, Drei Zinnen is a standout destination.

ROB: Traveling east to Asia… Hakuba, Japan

Hakuba Valley isn’t a single resort — it’s ten linked areas totalling around 120–140 km of pistes and 60–70 lifts. From long groomers to steep technical runs, plus backcountry access, it offers huge variety. Reliable powder, efficient connections, and Japanese mountain hospitality create a full winter experience, blending cultural richness with terrain diversity.

DOM: Over to North America again… Sun Peaks, Canada

Spread across three peaks, Sun Peaks is a resort that rewards exploration while remaining surprisingly accessible. The area offers roughly 135–144 km of piste connected by about a dozen lifts, giving skiers the chance to hop between wide cruisers, gladed tree runs, and more challenging bowls. Beginners and intermediates can enjoy long, gentle slopes, while advanced skiers can seek out steeper sections and off-piste terrain. One of the standout features is the lift layout — it’s spread out enough to encourage adventure without feeling overwhelming, allowing you to discover new lines across the peaks throughout the day. Terrain parks add a playful element, and the resort’s grooming ensures that runs are reliable even during busier periods. Sun Peaks also has a compact, charming village base with cafes, restaurants, and easy access to lifts, making transitions smooth. For anyone wanting a big-mountain experience without the crowds of western North American icons, Sun Peaks combines variety, space, and genuine West Coast winter atmosphere.

ROB: Finally, Geilo, Norway

Compact and family-friendly, Geilo offers roughly 30–35 km of alpine slopes with 20–22 lifts and hundreds of kilometres of cross-country tracks. Multiple base areas and night skiing extend the day, while groomed runs suit intermediates and families. Easy access from Oslo and a mix of alpine and Nordic options make it perfect for short breaks or varied ski trips.

*****

DOM: Well that’s for this week’s white out podcast but listeners, we are just starting to warm up for this season as the clocks go back and the temperatures get colder and colder…

ROB: yes Dom we have some new features planned for this season of the white out - you know the kind of things you would never of heard of before.

DOM: maybe there’s a reason for that Rob?

ROB: ha yes probably, but you know we like to do things differently here at the white out.

DOM: and we’d like to hear from you, the listeners too. Don’t hesitate to contact us by emailing hello at inthesnow.com With your questions. 

ROB: I must say Dom is was nice at the snow show to have people coming up and saying hi, skiers that listen to the podcast. I know had the white out tattooed to my forehead but still, great to be recognised.

DOM: I think they just thought you were strange and maybe needed some help

ROB: well that’s a given, there’s hundreds of people at the snow show that have known that for decades - nice to have new sign ups to the madness though.

DOM: well with that in mind it’s time to say goodbye…

That’s it for today’s episode — thanks so much for tuning in! 🙌

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